Conversation with Lucifer

This language is very difficult for a person to understand. Could you express it more simply? I am trying. I don’t understand. God gave you the ability to create outside of Him. You did the same and created Something Outside of Yourself, and so on. Does that mean that in our world, there is nothing but you, as a Creating Part Outside of God, and everything is created as a part of you? You perceive your world very narrowly. Let's go back to water. A water atom is part of a drop, a drop is part of a stream, a stream is part of a river, a river is part of the sea, the sea is part of the ocean. A drop in a stream and a drop in the ocean differ in composition, but they are simply altered parts of water. And a stream drop is also an ocean drop. The intersection of worlds, which you perceive as a linear intersection, is not so; the intersection is multidimensional. Everything exists in everything, and everything is part of everything. Your vocabulary lacks words to explain the multidimensionality of Being. I Am Part of God, and I Am God. I am like a stream drop that differs from an ocean drop, but I Am also an ocean drop simultaneously. I began Movement Outside of God, and parts of me began Movement Outside of Me, and all these parts are both My Expansion and My Knowledge Outside, and God’s knowledge of Himself, and knowledge Outside of Himself.

So, everything created in our World is an expansion through you, but also an expansion through God in you? That is, you Are the Expansion of God Outside of Him, and a person is the Expansion of You Outside of You? And then a person is the Expansion of You Outside of You as the Expansion of God Outside of God? You understood. So, we all create within you? Again: yes and no. Those who wish to separate Outside of Me and create Outside of Me do so. Those who choose to Create Within Me Create Within Me.

Does that mean that those who sow evil Create Within You, and those who sow good Create Outside of You? And again: it is both so and not so. Let’s then figure out: what do you call evil and good?

Evil is what contradicts the original divine nature. For example, the original is Love, and what contradicts it is Hatred. Love. How many different things you understand by this word. God Is Love. You repeat this. You can feel it as certain flows of energy that enter you, pass through you, and into the surrounding space. Let’s try to abstract from moral concepts. So, God Is a certain Energy called Love, He is the SOURCE OF THE ENERGY OF LOVE. But if you separate this Energy outside of the Source, it will continue to remain Energy, only separated from its Source.

Next, this Energy Beyond the Source, to Contemplate Itself as a Creator, can create something from itself outside of itself, something different from itself, in order to distinguish – between Itself and what It has Created Outside Itself. And, to be distinct, this Newly Created entity must have different characteristics, yet essentially remain the Same. That is, it must – transform and become, for example, ice, as opposed to boiling water, both of which, in essence, are originally water, but are now in states distinct from each other.

And what does it mean to be disTinct – it means to Have a Different Face, but not in the sense you understand it, it’s closer to the word Glint. That is, a Glint – is a refraction of the movement of Light. When Light is directed towards an obstacle, it reflects off it, and Light Glints are formed. This means that for Light to reflect, there must be an obstacle in its path. But how can this obstacle be created if everything around is God? Everything, in all directions.

When God set apart Something Beyond Himself, He essentially set this Something Apart Within Himself – after all, it’s all the same. That is, there is no Space Within God and Space Beyond God. There are, as it were, parts, islands of God within God’s Space, which have acquired other qualities and have become Spaces Beyond God. But, to distinguish these Spaces – simultaneously within and beyond, – parts of the Space must be marked, limited. Then, the continuously stretching, moving Light from God and Within God will encounter something set apart Within God and Beyond God, like an obstacle, and will begin to reflect off it and create Glints. And these Glints, Divine Faces, as reflected particles of Divine Light, will begin to reflect in different directions, manifesting as light reflections of the IMAGE OF GOD.

And, of course, the quality of these Glints depends on the quality and structure of the Reflecting Obstacle. And each Reflection, each Glint – is Different compared to the preCeding one. And so, the Unity of Reflections of God and the Diversity of Divine Faces – MULTIDIMENSIONALITY – is created. All Opposites are simply refractions of the Original, and this allows one to Distinguish it from the Original and Contemplate it. But a Glint of the Original is simply a Reflection of the Original. This means that there is nothing but God and nothing but Light, but there is a distinction from God – a Glint of God, and there is a distinction from Light – a Glint of Light.

But then where does evil come from, and what is evil? Yes, these are complex concepts for you. There is an obstacle reflecting the Light of God. This obstacle, in order to reflect the Light of God, must, as it were, stop and scatter it. What could this be? It could be Something that has a lower speed, that is, something in which God as Light vibrates at a lower speed. Then, as the Light approaches this Something (which is an obstacle, but in fact is simply a reduction in the speed of God’s Radiance), it, as it were, slows down, flows, and moves and transforms at a lower speed, and then becomes an obstacle. And then Light can reflect off it and create Glints. The entire meaning and purpose of this process is to create Glints, distinctions from God, facets of His Radiance. Thus, DENSITY was born. But, for the Glints to be different, there must also be different obstacles, and therefore, different degrees of density in the movement of Light. And so, WORLDS OF DIFFERENT DENSITY were created, as various barriers for reflecting Light, creating Glints of God. This means that Against – is simply in Front of, and difFerence is – Glints of Light. This is important to understand. So what is evil in your understanding?

It is what brings or generates negative energy. Pain, fear, hatred. These are many concepts at once. They are all reflections of what you call positive emotions. What is Fear? It is the absence of information. When does a person feel fear? When they don’t know what awaits them. A person fears death because they don’t know that death doesn’t exist and that they are immortal, because they see others dying around them, because they don’t know what will happen to them beyond the threshold of death, and so on.

And what is Knowledge? You consider it the informational filling of memory cells. But Knowledge is interconnection, continuity. When life is separated from death by a stage called “death,” this is separation. This is not Knowledge, but merely information. Your brain doesn’t know, your entire Being knows. In every cell of your Being, in every quantum of your Light, there are connections. And what you know is CONDITIONED CONTINUITY. You know that you breathe. It’s not your brain that knows, it merely analyzes your breathing: how it happens and what it consists of. But “how to breathe” is known not by the brain, but by every cell of your body. Knowledge is Communion, Connection. But in your brain, an artificial interruption of Knowledge has been created. And you have been left with Faith, that is, a guessing of Knowledge. What is guessing? It is recognizing what is. You do not know for sure, but you believe that there is God. You recognize and remember the Truth: what exists regardless of your guessing, – and this is Faith. When you fully recognize this Truth through Faith, you then already know this part of the Truth, this part of what exists beyond you, regardless of your guessing. Only the word “regardless” is also not quite fitting, because everything is interconnected. It may seem to you that I am trying to avoid the questions and theorize, but I am trying to explain and find understanding in you, using your words. Truth is inexpressible. Because it is much more complex and multifaceted than your words. You like this saying: “Truth is inexpressible because there are not enough words to describe it.” Even all the words I used in this sentence are just as multifaceted and require clarification for you to understand me. And still, even if you understand me, you will understand in your own way, and this again will not be the Truth itself, but only a reflection of its Reflections.

A reflection of Reflections? Does that mean that a Glint of God can also create Another Glint, and so on to infinity? Does that mean that the degree of distortion of the original Light is also infinite? Yes, but it is still – a Glint of the Original Light, a Glint of a Glint, and it is, of course, distorted. What is distortion? Simply refraction. You know the refraction of white light into the colors of the rainbow. You consider them to be beautiful reflections, even more beautiful than white. Why? Because it gives you the ability to distinguish these glints and combine them into various variations, of which there are also countless, and thus to know multiFacedness.

You don’t consider the refraction of white light into rainbow shades a distortion in a bad sense, do you? You have filled this word with a negative meaning, but it simply means glints of white.

What about black? Black is the absence of color. But how can color be absent if color – is also God, and there is nothing but God? But this means that Light on its path encounters such an obstacle that it almost doesn’t reflect Light. So, what is Evil? According to your definition, it is “what generates energy of a negative character.” What does it mean to generate? It means – to reflect and refract God’s Energy. But you cannot reflect God’s Energy directly. Because It is not yet available to you, because your energy receptors are not yet adapted to receiving energy of that order. And, therefore, you refract Glints of Light, that is, Reflections of Reflections. But whose Reflections are you refracting? The reflections – of those obstacles that were created by the original Creators Beyond God and – obstacles that you create yourselves. You yourselves, in essence, your Essence – is repeatedly Reflected Light of God, it is His Reflection of Reflections.

So, the One who Creates, who created the densification of Light for its Reflection, also reflected from this obstacle and created a scattering of Divine Light outside of itself. And further, this Reflected Light, which is Continuous and Endless, also began to reflect off newly created obstacles, and its reflections became Countless and Diverse, distinct from each other, and in some ways distinct from the Original Light of God. And some of these Reflections became so distinct from the Original God that they forgot that they are – the essence of God’s Reflection, and began to consider themselves the Original Light. This is what Is Evil. A Reflection of God’s Light that has lost its connection with God. Each Next reflects the Previous, but the path traveled by the Reflected Glint of God was so long and diverse that the chain of reflections was forgotten by it. What does it mean to be forgotten? It means that the current Reflection, which, for example, is you, feels its connection with the previous Reflection, but does not feel the connection with the Original Source. When the Light of this Source, in one way or another, through other Reflections, reaches this Glint, which is the Soul of a specific person, this Glint – the Soul feels a certain kinship with the Original Light, but does not understand what it consists of. Because the Glints that reach it are also Reflections from distortions of the Original Creating Light. And, simultaneously with the difference, the Soul feels unity, and this inexpressible feeling of Communion gives rise to an attempt to understand the nature of this Communion and return to the Source of this Communion. But on the way back to the Source, it is again reflected and distorted many times, creating a strange picture of the Radiance of the Reflections of God's Light. And it is beautiful.

So, what is evil? An incorrect Reflection?

There are no concepts of "correct Reflection" and "incorrect Reflection." These are just Reflections.

There is a concept of distance from the Source of the Reflection. If you have reflected a hundred times or a billion times, accordingly, the number of distortions is a hundred times more or a billion times more.

Does this mean that the more reflections there are, that is, the more the Soul reflects or creates, the harder it is to return to God because the distortions are great?

Yes, that's right. But since you have a Connection to the Source embedded in you, you feel this longing to return. And you constantly try to find the Way Back, but you create new Paths of Reflection.

Does this mean that returning to God is impossible?

Nothing is impossible, and you feel that. But each of your returns to God will be different.

And you have the right to choose: whether to continue moving away from the Source of Divine Light by continuing to reflect from its Reflections or to return to the Source by exploring your own and others' Reflections within your Path.

Exploring?

Yes, most of you are engaged in this—exploring your past Reflections and seeking the essence of God's Light in those past Reflections.

And those who do the opposite, that is, continue their reflections further, moving farther away from God by distorting the Reflections of His Light—are they the Dark Ones?

Yes, something like that. But all of this, all of you who choose this Path or another Path, are, in essence, Reflections of God's Light that have begun their journey. And you are all God.

Then what does it mean in this system of explanations of the Divine essence to say that "we are all co-creators and can create our own Universes and rise to the level of the Creator"?

I cannot explain to you the essence of God. It is inexplicable and unknowable. We can only speak of the qualities of God that we perceive, that we can perceive. And we understand that the essence of God is multifaceted and therefore inexplicable. For to know the essence, you must encompass it with your perception, but this is impossible because a part cannot comprehend the whole, but only touch those parts of it that are nearby.

And so we say that the essence of God is Love, and the essence of God is Light, and we try to relate this to our concepts of Light or Love, but they are far from the Truth because we cannot grasp its multifaceted nature.

As parts of God, created from God, we all—you included—possess all the qualities of God. Like water in the ocean, it is the same water as in a stream, and it possesses all the basic properties of water, but—altered properties. This means that you have the ability to create, that is—to reflect and refract God's Light—but for now, in your essence, you can only reflect the Light that reaches you as reflections from other creating Entities. And there are countless of them. And not all are accessible to you at this moment.

You can reflect the Reflections of other people, and most often, that's what you do: self-reflecting on each other.

Nevertheless, you have a vast choice of Reflections because an infinite chain of Reflections of God's Light was created. You can reflect the Reflections of the Light of nature, which you call the elements, and the Glints of the animal and plant world, celestial bodies, and planets accessible to you, angels, and demons. In essence, our conversation is also a reflection of my stream directed at you through the prism of your Reflection and through many prisms of Reflections of my original Glint.

And all your existence is a reflection of the numerous Glints of Being through your Prism of Perception, an endless journey in the labyrinth of Reflections. And since there are countless Glints of Light available to your perception, you always have a choice: what exactly to reflect and what not to. And for someone, you are also a Glint of God, and those others also choose: whether to reflect your Glint further or not.

At the same time, each of you chooses the way of reflecting. That is, you can direct your Reflection, give it direction, for example—to a specific person or something. And then, if you direct your Reflection, the one to whom you direct it chooses to what extent to accept it and reflect it further. And thus, he either densifies his reflection filter or opens it. And further, the path of this Glint of Reflection is unpredictable: either it will reflect off an even denser obstacle and return to you, or it will be perceived by the one to whom it was directed and will begin to reflect and travel further, for it is indestructible and inexhaustible in its Divine essence.

How complicated. But you grasped the essence. You still haven't clearly answered the question: what is evil?

Because there is no single definition, and you will not understand until you understand the essence.

Evil is the removal from Divine Light, that is—reflecting God's Light through significant distortion.

But everyone reflects the Light with distortion, right?

Yes, but the degree of distortion depends on the Prism of Perception. This is important.

What is the Prism of Perception?

It is—your Reflecting Apparatus.

What is it? You often hear about the concept of purity.

Compared to what?

There is a standard, the Original Light of God. And there are further distortions and reflections.

How is your visual perception of the form of an object formed? Streams of Light reflect off a barrier and feel its outlines.

And who creates these barriers?

The one from whom you are reflecting. But he does not just reflect; he refracts your Light. And you begin to feel and see His Refraction.

When you direct Love as a stream of energy toward another person, he can amplify it by reflecting it, or he can scatter it, or he can distort it more significantly and thus perceive it as, say, pity for him. The variations are numerous. The point is that he not only reflects but also perceives.

Therefore, you say that "the world is an illusion" because it is merely the perception of Reflections of the Reflection of God's Light.

If evil is the removal from God by increasing the degree of distortion of His Light, how can we make evil disappear?

There are many ways. Do not perceive it as a Reflection that you want to reflect through yourself. Reflect it differently, for example—scatter it and thus highlight the moments in it that constitute the Energy of the Original God and amplify them.

Why don't many people do this?

Because for that, you need to know how to do it and do it consciously.

And you reflect the Light unconsciously. And you do not try to refract it strongly, in your own way.

You have established commonly accepted "reflection patterns." They are neither bad nor good; they simply are. For example, "do no good, and you will receive no evil," and so on. And there are many such unconscious "reflection patterns." If you choose them consciously, that is your right. If you unconsciously adjust to the general matrices of perception—that is also your right.

And that is why I cannot answer you why so many people choose evil.

They simply choose it as a familiar way of unconscious reflection.

PART 3. THE LADDER OF THE UNIVERSE

Who are you? Did you not call me by name? Yes, but I was told that you left our Universe for another and said goodbye. And that the energies in this text are not like your energies to those who have interacted with you.

I am multidimensional and omnipresent. I am within each of you.

You are a reflected part of me, and I am reflected by you, along with other reflections.

You take the word "leaving" too literally. To leave means to disconnect, to close off all energetic interaction. But this is impossible to do completely.

Until each of you forgets me entirely, I cannot leave. Every thought you have of me acts like a magnet, drawing a part of me into your energetic fields of interaction.

Moreover, one can only leave something limited, exit beyond something. But you are parts of me. How can I leave myself? The Universe I have gone to is interconnected with your Universe. You could say it is the reverse side of it. And besides, I am present in many other Universes as well.

Does this mean that you are still partially present in our Universe?

What does the word "present" mean to you? The physical presence of my energies? Or the connection and path?

A part of me exists in you, as in every person. This part of me is present in you, which means it is present in the world you speak of. My presence in each of you is my presence in the world.

You often ask about wholeness. It is a complex, multilayered, multidimensional process: gathering oneself into wholeness. You gather parts of yourself, left in different lives in other entities. But everything is similar. I gather parts of myself, scattered in you.

Do you see the tree? It has grown wildly and has many leaves. But does each leaf know where the roots of the tree go? It considers itself free and only connected to the branch on which it grows. But the tree of life is infinite, as are its roots. If the roots have given additional growth and branches underground, can it be said that the roots have left the tree system? For the leaf to understand this, it must see the entire path of energy movement, from each tip of each root to each leaf.

Are you saying that you are the root of life? Or are you one of our roots?

It is difficult for you to understand all this. You are parts of me and connected to me.

Did I understand correctly that, just as roots are the reverse, hidden side of the tree, so you are the hidden side of life on Earth?

This is a long story. Are you ready to listen?

People have created many legends and have completely distorted the understanding of what I am.

And it is a difficult process—transitioning to a new system of worldview.

The experiment, what was it about?

The experiment is something new for you. New conditions, new development.

Creation is a very multilayered process.

Let's talk about limitations. How and where do the boundaries of everything exist? In my perception?

Yes, exactly. In order for me to stand out from God, I limited my perception of God. Do you understand? That is, I deliberately and consciously set boundaries within God and thus became What I Am outside of God. I consciously expressed this intention. But who determines the size of the boundaries, what size they should be? How can one understand what size is within an unlimited space of Divine presence?

We can only define the boundaries ourselves. Each of us, limiting ourselves, separated ourselves from God. By limiting ourselves, we broke our connection with God, because it was only possible to go outside oneself by overcoming the boundaries of oneself. And this was an eternal movement.

At first, we all strove to separate from God to limit ourselves.

And then we strove to reunite with God by overcoming our own boundaries.

In the first case, we sought to become God outside of God, and in the second case, to overcome the boundaries of God outside of God.

And so it continued until each of us discovered that to restore the connection with God, it is not necessary to overcome your boundaries, but simply to realize God within yourself. God is within you. Even if you have become God outside of God, inside you remain the same God, just separated. Then, to restore the connection with God, you do not need to break your boundaries, but simply need to realize the greatness of God within yourself.